Skopje: Streets Renamed With Ancient Greek Names

Macedonia, Macedonians, Great Alexander, Philip, Amynta, Perdika, Ptolemy, Cleopatra, Aegean, Macedonian Phalanx, Cyril and Methodius, Thessaloniki, Serres, Drama, Kastoria are some of the new names of Skopje’s streets, in the framework of the local authorities’ promotional actions after the respective approval by the Internal Ministry.

Nikola Gruevski’s government promotes a methodical “ancient-Macedonianism” of his country, so names of the streets that were Skopjan for decades have changed into ancient Greek ones, mostly related to historical figures or Greek geographical areas. The people of Skopje seem to be craving new ancestors, probably because they find Greece’s past more glorious and amusing than theirs. They also call the real and only Macedonia as an “occupied” area of their country by Greeks, and distinguish it from “their” Macedonia by adding the adjective “Aegean.”

The renaming of almost 300 streets of Skopje has already raised disputes among the representatives of the Albanians of the country, according to a protothema.gr article. Albanians appear to be noting that such efforts could negatively affect the relations between the nations of the country which are already tentative, because of the arrest of extremist Islamists linked to the cruel murder of five Skopjans a few days before Easter.

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  • Aetos

    Perhaps they are preparing to become Greek citizens. So that they become a new Greek province.

  • Alexander

    Fuck off you greek bastard,you know very good,that you occupied our lands during the Balkan wars! Before the wars,Aegean Macedonia with Solun and our Republic of Macedonia were one part,one state and one nation with centuries.Your politicians are afraid to admit that you’ve done genocide to Macedonians,and your history is nothing else but copying of our ancient history,but of course you can’t understand that because you’re brainwashed nation whitch teaches fake history.You stupid,greek and Macedonian were never and will never be the same.We will be honoured if your wish is to be real Macedonians like us.If you’re Macedonians you’ve never torturing the people from Aegean Macedonia with constant police patrols like they are some terrorists.You nazi scum,you’ve become a state in 18th century and you had german kings,the whole history of you is kissing asses of other countries,you’ve never been enough brave,honest and brave to do something yourself,thats your real history,and we had state many centuries before you,while you were savage tribes came from Africa and lived in polises,Macedonia was kingdom.Just for the record,ask the scientists in top universities in US and Britain,they will tell you the truth about us,that the gene structure of todays modern Macedonians in great part is the same with that of ancient Macedonians,and yours is the same with Ethiopians,haha you’ve always been and you will always be gipsies not just for us,but also for the world sciense and that is prooved with evidents,no matter you like it or not,but sorry – THE TRUTH IS ON OUR SIDE.And let me remind you that your Demosthenes told that Phillip II of Macedonia and Macedonians were barbarians and didn’t like the greeks at all.Also that is confirmed by Herodotus,whome you’re considering that is father of the history.Solong suckers.MACEDONIA FOR THE MACEDONIANS,SOLUN WILL BE OURS AGAIN !!!

  • Patrisios Avangarios

    Dear Alexander of the FYROM, please don’t talk about history the moment that the greatest fabricator of history is “Josip Broz Tito” who created you and your country, and established your culture and traditions by stilling that of its neighbours. Even you language is nothing more than a carbon copy of Bulgarian.

  • Krater

    Is fair to say that you change names of all vilages in Aegean part of Macedonia 100 years ago :( :(

  • Patrisios

    Aegean Macedonia is a real and credible as the Republic of Macedonia, which we know IS NOT.

    Josip Broz Tito – the master of deception

    By they way, how are your Albanina citizens?

  • Alexander

    haha,dear nazi neighbours,it’s very stupid and pathetic when your so-called “facts” are in co-relation with tito and Yugoslavia.Show me proof with DNA analisys that you are not african gypsies,and then we will trust you that you are the only macedonians,but as i said,unfortunately for you,science and facts are on our side,and before facts,you know what they said,and Gods bow.So,just admit that you’re artificial state,created by the interests of great states,nothing more and nnothing less than that.As i said give us proof,cause we have it,and you don’t.You’re so brainwashed nation,i feel sorry for you,you don’t have mony to order a cup of coffee,you’ve always worked with bulshiterian tatars against us,you’ve done that before,and you’re doing it again,cause you’re so jelaous and affraid from us.In fact,we should thank you,because with your stupid “name issue” you’re making us very popular in front of the whole world.Hahaa,we were there in the Balkans before you become “nation”,which you’re not and today.And what’s concering about shiptras,dont worry,we have them under control,in fact they are just 10% in Macedonia,not as they claim,because none of them lives in our Republic,but in western Europe.And as i know,you have bigger problem with them,cause they are about million in your shitty country.And in the end,let me to tell you what your real name should be – The Former Ottoman Province of Achaea – TOPA.hahahaha

  • Czla

    Now this is great. Now if you can also learn to speak then you can become real macedonians.

  • Czla

    Speak Greek that is!

  • Alexander

    You should learn to speak Macedonian first !

  • Alexander

    you only can suck my Macedonian dick !

  • Filip

    Read this carefully my nigger descendant:It’s so sad when you are debating/ discussing with someone who doesn’t know anything about the history of his own country and even more sadly, anything about the history of his neighbors countries. Bulgaria 22 years ago was receiving help from us, The Macedonians, and by ‘help’ i mean on food; you can find this facts/ information in every Bulgarian History Book. I’m saying that they are a bad copy of us. How can our language be copy of theirs when Ohrid, the city where it was invented on the opposite side of Macedonia, not near the MK-BG border.
    About “your” (ours I mean, The GRAND MACEDONIA), I can only say that am very sorry, because you are so afraid that we are going to overtake(which will happen). Every international deal, if it is not written in it, has a validity of 100 years; that means that if we were around around 13 million people we would easily overtake “yours” territories.At the and ‘mi negro’ “friend”, we the macedonians can count lucky, simply because we know who are our ancestors.

  • Greek_Canadian

    Yawn. Seems to me you are denying our identity as Greeks there. Why so hypocrite.. unless even you very well know anicent Macedonians were Greeks.

    “It should be
    noted that there is NO CONNECTION between the Macedonians of the
    time of Alexander the Great who were a GREEK tribe and today’s
    so-called ‘macedonians’ of the ‘Former Yugoslav Republic ofmacedonia’ or
    FYROM, who are of SLAVIC origin and related to BULGARIANS.” -David H Levinson,
    ‘The Encyclopaedia of Ancient Cultures’
    “We are Slavs who came to this area in
    the sixth century … We are not descendants of the ancient Macedonians” -
    Kiro Gligorov, FYROM’s first President, Foreign Information Service Daily
    Report, Eastern Europe, February 26, 1992

    “The political
    and military leaders of the Slavs of Macedonia at the turn of the century seem
    not to have heard Misirkov’s call for a separate Macedonian national identity;
    they continued to identify themselves in a national sense as Bulgarians rather
    than Macedonians.” – US Anthropologist Loring Danforth, “The
    Macedonian Conflict: Ethnic Nationalism in a Transnational World”,
    Princeton Univ Press, December 1995

    “FOUR THOUSAND
    YEARS OF GREEK HISTORY have produced four Greek heritages, each of which has
    had an effect on the life of the Greeks in later stages of their history. The
    Hellenic Greeks received a heritage from the Mycenean Greeks, the Macedonian Greeks
    from the Hellenic, the Byzantine Greeks received on from the Macedonian Greeks,
    the Modern Greeks have received one heritage from the Byzantines and a second
    from the Hellenes.”

    (The Greeks and
    their Heritage) AJ Toynbe

  • Greek_Canadian

     Open a book you illiterate ultra nationalist anti-Macedonian Nazi.

    “Men of
    Athens… In truth I would not tell it to you if I did not care so much for all
    Hellas (Greece); I myself am by ancient descent a Greek, and I would not
    willingly see Hellas change her freedom for slavery. ” (Speech of
    Alexander I of Macedonia upon being admitted to the Greek-only Olympic games
    as a self-identifying Greek, Herodotus, Histories, 9.45, ed. A. D. Godley)

    ‘We are not related
    to the northern Greeks who produced leaders like Philip and Alexander the
    Great. We are a Slav people and our language is closely related to Bulgarian.’
    - FYROM´s Ambassador to Canada Gyordan Veselinov, Ottawa Citizen Newspaper,
    February 24 1999

    ‘We do not claim to
    be descendants of Alexander the Great.’ – FYROM’S Ambassador Ljubica Acevshka,
    speech to US representatives in Washington on January 22 1999

    “The
    creation of the Macedonian nation, for almost half of a century, was done in a
    condition of single-party dictatorship. In those times, there was no difference
    between science and ideology, so the “Macedonian” historiography, unopposed by
    anybody, comfortably performed a selection of the historic material from which
    the “Macedonian” identity was created. There is nothing atypical here for the
    process of the creation of any modern nation, except when falsification from
    the type of substitution of the word “Bulgarian” with the word “Macedonian” were
    made.”  -former FYROM foreign minister
    Denko Maleski

    “We
    are Bulgarians, more Bulgarians than the Bulgarians in Bulgaria
    themselves”….. The
    only Macedonian Slavs who played a leading part in the uprising were those who
    called themselves Bulgarians…. Macedonians
    means only Macedonian Bulgarians…. And,
    anyway, what sort of new Macedonian nation can this be when we and our fathers
    and grandfathers and great-grandfathers have always been called Bulgarians?….”etc.. etc.. -  “ethnic Macedonian” national hero Krste Misirkov

  • Greek_Canadian

     Dear Alexander…ski…

    “And whether
    Bulgarian consciousness exists in Macedonia, this is a historical legacy. We’re
    now writing our history. We can’t write that until 1940 we were Bulgarians and
    after 1940 Macedonians.” -  Krste Crvenkovski
    (President of the Central Committee of the Union of Communists in the Socialist
    Republic of Macedonia) to Todor Zhivkov (First Secretary of the Central
    Committee of the Communist Party of Bulgaria) – May 19, 1967

    http://tinyurl.com/y2n846j

    Why are we ashamed and flee from the
    truth that whole positive Macedonian revolutionary tradition comes exactly from
    exarchist part of Macedonian people? We shall not say a new truth if we mention
    the fact that everyone, Gotse Delchev, Dame Gruev, Gjorche Petrov, Pere Toshev
    - must I list and count all of them – were teachers of the Bulgarian Exarchate
    in Macedonia.’

    (former Prime
    Minister of FYROM, Ljubco Georgievski, 2007, in his book ‘Facing the truth’)

    ‘The idea that Alexander the Great
    belongs to us was at the mind of some outsider groups only. These groups were
    insignificant in the first years of our independence. But the big problem is
    that the old Balkan nations have been learned to legitimize themselves through
    their history. In the Balkans to be recognized as a nation you need to have
    history of 2,000 to 3,000 years old. Since you (Greece ) forced us to invent a
    history, we did invent it.’

    (FYROM Foreign
    Minister Denko Maleski – 1991 to 1993)

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlDLmufGHqQ&feature=related

  • Greek_Canadian

    To the Alexander-skis-the-great-skis of FYROM….

    You, and your patronizing anti-Macedonian anti-Hellenic apologists, lost all every last shred of moral credibility when you started to turn into those ancient Slavic speaking Makedon-skis famous for competing as Slav’s during the ancient Slavic-only Olympic games.

  • Krater

     I just can say: CHAERONEA FOREVER :) :):)

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Dimitar-Dimitrovski/100002586181008 Dimitar Dimitrovski

    its not Skopje dear friends from Elada.
    its Macedonia now before and forever and we are Macedonians 
    children of big warrior Alexander the Great.
    one day our part down all the way to Leptokaria will
    belong to ass.
    remember that .
    Macedonia forever for Macedonians

  • Thanioti

    My Slavic neighbours, I am greatly saddened to see how your state propaganda has victimised you and your identity. 

    The anger contained in the comments of your Slavic country men are more reflective and evident of the internal conflict you must be suffering as a result of the extensive amount of truth and fact available globally which contradicts the false and illegal history being taught and promoted within your nation. 

    This paradox is resulting in your inability to believe the logical facts, evidence, history, and recorded testimonies (even from your past leaders) and 1000′s of academics globally which supports clearly that your claim to Hellenic history is false.

    How do you reconcile the thought that you have been told a lie?

    Is this where your anger stems from perhaps, not knowing who you truly are?

    Does it not seem plausible that you are victims not of a Hellenic lie, but a lie conceived by your leaders?  

    Consider that this lie is very real, does this not support the same reason why your nation is dehumanising your Hellenic neighbours?

    Why does your education system have a different history to that of the rest of the human family?

    Just remember to not wonder too far down this dark path your nation is leading you on and seek the light of truth in order to discover your true identity.

  • Virus

    Does this article has a point? XD or it’s just stating facts.

  • Virus

    Albanians are good… how is your economy XD

  • Virus

    Nationalist shitheads of both countries! You are all being fooled by your countries propaganda. If it werent for politicians and the goverments we would all get along just fine.
    History doesn’t matter, it won’t slove anyone’s problem today.
    And the “naming distpute” is bollocks. It’s like saying: Hey you can’t make your kid Xristos, my kid is named Xristos, they will confuse the two at school. It’s just a big cover up for the greek national policy againts my country (the same people who created that policy brought Greece to it knees) they don’t mind the name, they just dont like us being an independent country.

  • PL45

    The vast majority of the scholars in Archeology, History and Science fully side with the Greek position that Macedonia is Greek.

  • PL45

    Here’s what he majority of Academia says.
    http://macedonia-evidence.org/

  • PL45

    Scholars around the world from all corners of Academia are mocking FYROM not Greece for the theft of Greece’s Macedonian culture.
    http://macedonia-evidence.org/

  • Alexander

    They are just common traitors,which work for your propaganda,not for the good of Macedonia,but I’m so interested how much money did you’ve paid to them,so as we know how cheap are those bastards.I think they are cheap as your “so-called” country.If you are men enough,you’ll admit that you’re in our posession for centuries and centuries ago,but you’re so shitty scared to admit that,because you are cowards,you’ve always been and you will always be.You’re so lame,that all world laughs to your insponsibillity,your economic crysis is result of your corrupted paying the governments of countries worldwide for your psychological fictive “name” problem.You are so pathetic,i dont know I should laugh or I should cry.Fuck off,Macedonia will be united again,and you know that,it hurts you because you can’t do anything about it

  • Stephanie

    OMG YOU GREEKS ARE OFFICIALLY NUTS.  DID YOU FORGET WHAT HAPPENEED IN 1913???…THE TREATY OF BUCHAREST IS WELL DOCUMENTED. BUT BECAUSE YOU ARE ALL SO STUPID HERE’S A HISTORY LESSON YOUR COUNTRY WAS HANDED A SLICE OF THE REAL MACEDONIA. SOLUN, LERIN JUST TO MENTION A FEW OF THE TOWNS THAT THE GREEKS RENAMED WHEN THEY STOLE THE LAND FROM THE MACEDONIANS. YOU ARE LAZY, HATEFUL, UGLY, LYING PEOPLE. THE WORLD HAS SEEN YOU FOR WHO YOU ARE, SORT YOUR ECONOMY OUT, GO AND GET JOBS AND PAY TAXES LIKE THE REST OF US, INSTEAD OF WASTING TIME ON PROMOTING HATRED.

  • Cypriot

     Nice Greek name you got there. Comes from the Greek word “stephanos”, which means “crown”.

  • Cypriot

    I didn’t know FYROM is annexing with Greece! Next they can change their language to Greek and their flag and national anthem. I suppose it’s time we start drawing the map of Greece that includes FYROM.

  • Cypriot

     May I ask, what are the names of these books that have this history you are describing? I am really interested in getting my hands on one and finding out more.

  • Cypriot

     Herodotus is a common traitor working towards our propaganda? He was alive before your people arrived in the area you fool!

  • aris

     BTW why don’nt you call Solun with the name (in macedonian language I suppose) its founder gave to it, after Alexander’s sister?